I have to say that looks sensational! I'm a great believer in a little subtle modification. Your car was registered at the same Garages as Hirst's car in Shrewsbury, which must be some incredible odds. Looking forward to seeing this in the flesh!
Probably old news, as some of you lucky people know of me but I'll get this on here anyway.
Went to investigate this car after a heads up from the Al from the Datsun owners club, expecting nothing more than a heap of rust I was pleasantly surprised to see how solid and clean the car was.
The car had been bought new in 1975 at Philens Motors in Cheltenham by the owners brother, who then passed it on to him in 1980. The owner was a builder by trade (he also a owned a 620 pick up) and by some small miracle he chose not to use the 610 as a builders hack but used it (carefully) as a private car, often traveling to Jersey throughout the 1980's. For some reason he chose to retire the car in 1989 and placed it in his lock up. The owner tried to start the car sometime in the 90's, to allow for the garage roof to be fixed but it failed to turn over, so once the council fixed the garage roof, it was wheeled back in and remained there unstarted.
After some discussion over a period of months, due to the owners illness and subsequent recovery, we came to a deal and I enlisted Reece to help me pick it up from Gloucester. Not surprisingly the brakes had seized and as we forgot to bring a battery we had no idea if it would turn over or not. The mileage was reading just under 45,000 and there was no reason to believe that was not original. The sills, wheel arches, underside, suspension turrets and engine bulkhead were solid, it had been treated to some rust proofing but it was mostly limited to the under bonnet area. Even if the engine was seized it wouldn't be a problem finding a donor L18. The only areas of concern are the area around the windscreen and a few scabs on door edges.
With help from Reece and Will, the brake, clutch and exhaust components were replaced or renewed. The engine fired up after 2 turns of the key - a fuel tank blockage was responsible for it not turning over in the 90's.
The car passed its MOT in June, with a few advisories, mostly due to surface rust on the underside mechanical components but structurally the car was as good as it gets for a car that has been standing for 24 years. The original tyres were obviously shot, so I took the wheels off my 510 (which is also by coincidence registered in Gloucester) which suited it perfectly. I also enlisted Al's work to sorted out the suspension - coil overs at the front, with an escort lowering kit for the leafs at the back.
I took to the car to a few shows last year, and it attracted lots of goodwill and complementary comments. The plan is to gradually bring the car up to scratch - the windscreen area will be dealt with, and I'm cleaning up the scabby surface rust areas. It will eventually be re-chromed and resprayed too - but the plan is not to change the current look.
It runs beautifully, the engine is as smooth as a sowing machine. It cruises happily at 60mph. The engine cooling is perfect and deals with modern traffic with no issues and returns around the 25-30mpg mark. It will make a few shows this year, all going well.
Hi my name is Griff i have a 240z resto business in the UK and i am trying to source a crankshaft from a LD28 Nissan engine (Diesel) I am not sure how to put the message up on the forum so i am just putting it up to a few members If anybody can help my email is firstname.lastname@example.org The engine was in nissan maxima 1981-83 Cedric 430-Y30'LaurelC31-32 Also nissan patrol 1980-83 Kindest regards Griff
I feel the same way with my '91 Carina, its abilities are effortless and the car is utterly dependable. A confident machine but it does lack feedback and I don't feel involved when driving it. I have recently bought this:
For no other reason other than I fancied a German car for a bit and the Carina needs some attention to pass an MOT. Its actually quite nice to drive and I think I've found a good one, its not totally original but original pre-92 Golfs are becoming difficult to find these days.
Matt, I think despite its appearances, it was an all new design when it replaced the previous Carina II (available only as a hatchback and saloon). Perhaps its utilitarian intentions in the home market meant that the Toyota design team left the rear end as functional as possible.
I quite like those Sirions Ferg, an unusually rare car too. It is essentially a Toyota so I suspect should you need to go to a main dealer, they'll have everything you need. Have Daihatsu pulled out of the UK yet?
These old Toyotas were so well-built and quality-made. Sadly, most people did not appreciate that.
They are well regarded in terms of durability and quality - the customer satisfaction surveys often illustrate that. I took the car to my local Toyota service department and the supervisors knowledge and appreciation of the car is a good indication why owners also rate the dealer experience highly.
As I live in the south midlands of the UK, we rarely get extreme weather - snow covers the roads for no longer than a couple of weeks or so in a year. I will power jet the underside and inner arches on a regular basis but I may well spend some time with some extra undersealing next year.
Hey Lukas, its taken a while to get pics sorted out - you know how it is.
It is a XL version, which is the base model, from what I understand. The GL version with more goodies (roofrack, electric windows etc) was imported alongside this model. First imports of the XL wagon arrived in February 1991, a month before this one was registered. The current scrapping process - as to be expected with early 90's cars is ruthless, I reckon 26,000 or so of these saloons, hatchbacks and estates were imported between 1988 and 1992 and making a few basic calculations on the 'how many left' website, there still could be as many as 2000+ or so models still registered although I have yet to come across one in my local area but I've come across quite a few examples over the last few years, reliability being the main virtue for its longevity.
I've added the wheels as temporary measure - I'm researching the options out there - there's lots of suitable 4x100 FWD offset wheels out there. I think multi-spoke BBS type wheels could work quite well.
The main difference between the XL and GL estate models is the lack of the matt black rear panel. I like them with the rear panel, but I'll keep it like this for the time being. From this angle the car appears to be far older than it actually is.
Generous boot space is a key reason why I bought the car. I'm on the look out for a boot liner and retractable boot cover.
Very clean but typically Japanese interior. It is actually more inviting than it looks, the plastics are of good quality, door shuts have a good 'thunk' and still require some force to shut. The seats are supportive and haven't sagged, they have been protected by Toyota seat covers too. Everything works although the stereo performance (one working speaker, lousy FM radio and non functioning tape player) sucks. I should replace it really. Note the plastic sheets still on the doors.
4A-F carb fed engine. I spent a little time cleaning the it, and hope to spend a little more time getting it up to scratch. It runs very smoothly and actually has decent performance. I think in keeping with low specs for Japanese estates of the era, the XL estate was the only Carina to still feature the non fuel injection engine.
I've been low key recently, but now's a good time to reintroduce myself again. I've been looking for a good sized estate car for a few months, several have come up - including a '91 Mazda 626, as well as the odd mid 90's Toyota and Nissan offerings but the selection has generally poor and they tend to be in the last moments of life, so when this came up and I snapped it straight away.
There's not a lot wrong with it, a few bulbs not working, a poorly resprayed boot lid and the engine running too cool at speed. It's been garaged all its life and has covered 61K. The elderly owner sadly passed away in the spring and the family came to painful conclusion that they had to sell the car. I reassured them I was the right person and I picked the car up from Kent a week ago and I have no regrets at all - its a joy to drive. Spec wise its odd, I've been looking at the Corona versions of these cars (Toyota sold these both as Carina and Corona models) and I can only assume this is the basic spec model, albeit with a electric sunroof. The black bumpers is a curiosity - I seem to recall all estates prior to this XL model sporting body coloured ones. The lack of roof bars too is unusual too. The interior is spotless, as is the engine bay. There are minor rust bubbles coming up on the lower rear arches with the odd blemish on the boot lid both will get some attention to sort out. I'll post up some better pics this weekend - I have some alloys to fit on to it too - I don't think those hubs are original.
There is an example of a very well known dutch KE20 which is pretty well known, the owners done a great job with it and made it his very own. They had a reasonably long production run for European markets and like most older Japanese cars mechanical parts are fairly cheap and easy to obtain, exterior panel parts are available (more so in Europe than the UK seemingly) but may be expensive. I suspect you'll have to do some level of welding too.
As far as I can work out they don't seem to attract as much investment as say a Celica or Crown but it has to be worth saving but I don't expect you'll get the money you spend on it but thats not really the point is it? I had a drive in one of these a few years ago and recalled that the Toyoglide gearbox was simply a 2 speed shift but its possible that the gearbox specs differs in Europe, Toyota made dozens of gearboxes but named them all Toyoglide. I do like the colour, a typical Toyota colour seldom seen on the surviving 70's Toyotas today. Hope you take it on!
Very nice understated cars and far too rare these days. Be nice to see one thats been restored. They were very slow sellers here, only available with the 1.8 engine and the 4WD versions would been quite a pricy piece of kit. Good luck!
Thats looks ok to me, does explain why certain models were never available here. I've been thinking about doing an illustrated guide along these lines of model family trees - utter pointless and of only of any interest to a handful of us but always useful. Good work!
This also explains why the 'MK4' T80/T90 Corona was not available here, the Carina was a remarkable similar in spec but the Corona used a different series of engines and therefore make the cars quite unrelated - the Carina range of the series follows the Celica specs and engines, which clearly suggests that the Carina was probabily considered the more sporty of the saloons. The T100 Corona was imported here for a few years and due to its 2 litre engine was deemed suitable to sell alongside the Carina.